Thomas Crampton - Latest Comments in Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Nick Davies43 — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:28:34 -0000

Wikipedia Editors are going the same way as DMOZ editors, full of their own grandiose.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Chris Sherlock — Fri, 15 May 2009 09:01:15 -0000

No need to do that. It's all publicly available. Just go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... and type in iht.com.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Chris Sherlock — Fri, 15 May 2009 08:58:15 -0000

Yeah, that's right. It's Wikipedia that's unreliable, not the mainstream press. Because it was obviously that dastardly Wikipedia that convinced the NYT to wipe out the IHT archive. Good sir, I bow to your superior logic.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Chris Sherlock — Fri, 15 May 2009 08:56:21 -0000

It's actually very easy to find all the links in Wikipedia that point to iht.com:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/i...

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Some guy — Mon, 11 May 2009 18:24:48 -0000

Wikipedia did not delete the links the NYT did

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

speludner — Mon, 11 May 2009 17:47:58 -0000

"How can we count the links to the IHT in Wikipedia?"

Would a Google of "site:wikipedia.org link:iht.com" do the trick? For me it brings up about 4500 links.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

STHayden — Mon, 11 May 2009 11:41:35 -0000

they should just point those links at archive.org

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

kepero — Mon, 11 May 2009 00:17:10 -0000

Wikipedia has that information, but you would have to ask someone with authority for the links. Their CMS keeps track of all external links added to articles, but as far as I know there's no public interface for this data.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Glenn Fleishman — Sun, 10 May 2009 19:32:22 -0000

I can't believe I've been writing articles since 1995 about link breakage. I would have thought media sites would have actually seen inbound links as an intangible, valuable asset of the company. It's fiduciary misconduct in a public company to take an IT action that results in massive loss of inbound traffic, reputation, and ongoing authority.

Back in 1995, I wrote a piece for Adobe Magazine's online site which was a very thinly veiled attack on Adobe itself having broken basically every link on the site by re-engineering with no forward path. In every site migration and redesign I've worked on nearly all links (all regular links and as many special ones as I can) work indefinitely.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

AAfter Search — Sun, 10 May 2009 15:30:03 -0000

This is a discussion about the NY times messing up IHT links wiping out history, not about Wikipedia.

By the way, Wikipedia is not perfect, but that is the best we have.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Wikipedia admin — Sun, 10 May 2009 15:04:04 -0000

This has happened before, although admittedly not on such a large scale. There'll be a workaround somewhere though.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Daniel Tunkelang — Sun, 10 May 2009 13:14:40 -0000

Perhaps this is a great reminder as to why many publications frown on online sources as citations. Not only can links be removed, but the content can be modified at any time. Of course, an online publication could make a commitment to permanent links and immutable content--and could even contract with a third party to maintain an archive, in the even that the online publisher goes under.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Facebook User — Sun, 10 May 2009 12:53:31 -0000

IHT.Com appears on 7,291 pages, according to Domain Tools.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Danny Sullivan — Sun, 10 May 2009 12:42:02 -0000

Yeah, I've grappled with this longer than Wikipedia. I've got stories I've cited in newspapers and magazines that stretch back over 13 years. Then they go poof as a publication dies or changes things all around. Similar to the advice above, I've found it's essential to cite the headline, date and publication name along with the URL. Then you have a shot at tracking down a copy elsewhere.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

The_Swine_Flu — Sun, 10 May 2009 12:19:01 -0000

This is such bullshit. I don't want to be deleted by those haters at the New York Times.

Re: Wikipedia Grappling with Deletion of IHT.com

Bohol — Sun, 10 May 2009 09:43:32 -0000

Universities have started discouraging research students to cite references from Wikipedia. Wikipedia is so inconsistent.